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La figura ocho
« on: April 03, 2014, 11:39:09 PM »
Hola amigos este es mi primer post luego de presentarme, para los que nos gusta la magia de cerca y a veces queremos cambiar el repertorio sin recaer a juegos con cartas, monedas, entre otros objetos que se suelen repetir mucho en las rutinas; quiero recordar un gran juego que siempre nuestro querido Daniel Celma mostraba. Espero este post sea de utilidad para que algunos lo descubran y otros aporten sus comentarios. Saludos!

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Re: La figura ocho
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 12:10:08 AM »
Fue publicado como efecto en "Conjuring for Amateurs" por Ellis Stanyon en 1897. Es una pieza entretenida; ver el WGM para contar con mas variaciones.

Re: La figura ocho
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 12:22:45 AM »
Fue publicado como efecto en "Conjuring for Amateurs" por Ellis Stanyon en 1897. Es una pieza entretenida; ver el WGM para contar con mas variaciones.


Gracias por la info desconocia.
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Re: La figura ocho
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 03:42:43 PM »
Un clásico! buení­simo!
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Re: La figura ocho
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 03:23:47 AM »
Nunca voy a cambiar la idea de que no hay nada mas Hermoso y sabroso para la vista que un Juego Clasico !!
Me llena !!
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Re: La figura ocho
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 02:57:44 PM »
Según el libro Magia de cerca( Lewis Ganson ) edición en castellano, publicada en su dí­a por la editorial Cymys , la primera descripción de movimientos alusivos a esta materia es la obra de Ellis Stanyons, New miscellaneous trick  publicada en 1960 que contiene un capitulo sobre la figura ocho en cuerda.

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Re:La figura ocho
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 12:15:41 PM »
Nuestro coforista timoro me comentó sobre este juego hecho por Zanatta, hace unos cuantos meses estuve leyendo y viendo distintas variables y me sorprendió el efecto que causa en el público.
La versión de Chef Anton compartida acá arriba me gusta mucho, es divertida y el final es muy bueno.
Se llama Endless chain, Fast and loose o Loopy Loop.

Hay referencias al juego de 1788, en un texto que refiere a la época shakesperiana, en donde se supone que ciertos "engañabdores" estafaban gente con esta trampa*

Bibliografía sobre el tema

Acer, David: Natural Selections 2. Hardcover, 1999 Camirand Academy, 201 pages. Includes a subtlety for Endless Chain. $35.00

Anderson, George: Magic Digest. Softcover, 1972 Digest Books, 288 pages. Includes The Australian Belt: Loopy Loop, Chain of Chance - spectator can't pick the side that "catches"

Ayling, Will: The Endless Chain (with Lewis Ganson, Fred Lowe, and Rex Taylor). Softcover, 1983, Supreme Magic, 44 pages. Moves, ideas, patter presentations and routines. Part of the Supreme 'Know-How' series. Available as an e-book from Lybrary.com

Blake, George: Loopy Loop: A Treatise on the Endless Chain. Softcover, 1949/1972 Micky Hades Ent., 23 pg 8.5x11". Includes: Introduction, Production of the Chain, Figure 8, Which is Pulled?, Easy Figure 8, Ring and Chain, Chain of Life, 1 Finger only, Double 8, Ring Off, Flower, Extra Choice, Pouring Chain, Creeping Chain, Falling Knot, Pricking the Garter. Available from Denny & Lee's.

Brahams, Anthony & M. Porstmann: Karl Norman Forty Years at the Forks. Hardcover, 1995, Anthony Brahams, 80 pages. An updated version of Karl's Here's How, includes Carnival Loop Routine.

Brooke, Ken: The Endless Chain. A4-size four page Magic Sheet Instruction, Harry Stanley's Unique Magic Studio, London. Instructions by Lewis Ganson.

Cinimod, P.: Chain Trickery and Chain Station. 1970ca, 6 pages. I've never seen this, but there is a reference at the Lybrary.com site entry for Will Ayling's book. P. Cinimod magic was put out by Dom Paolino in the 1970s.

Denhard, Harold: How to Do Rope Tricks. Softcover, 1973, Magic, Inc., 68 pages. Includes On the Barrelhead on page 33 by L. Vosburgh Lyons, M.D.; originally from Phoenix Magazine. Shows the basic throw for the "chain of chance" or "loopy loop" sucker bet

Diaconis, Persi & Ron Graham: Magical Mathematics. Hardcover, 2012, Princeton University Press. "The Mathematical Ideas That Animate Great Magic Tricks". Includes a section by Bob Neale on the endless chain, with lots of color photos.

Elliot, Bruce: Magic As A Hobby. Hardcover, 1958, Harper & Brothers, Inc., 240 pages. Includes Three Loop Monte by L. Vosburgh Lyons, a version of the Chain of Chance, Loopy Loop, Fast & Loose. Spectator can't insert finger into loop of rope

Fedko, John: Magic Treasures (edited by Tom Clifford). Hardcover, 1996, Fedko Magic Co, CA, 168 pages. 54 effects including Chain of No Return endless chain routine. With illustrations by Tony Dunn.

Ganson, Lewis: The Art of Close Up Magic Volume 1. Hardcover, 1967, 400 pages. Contains lots of close up magic, including chapter 4 on gambling routines. Endless Chain routines are: The Figure 8 (George Blake), Two Novel Moves (George Blake), and Triple Circle Routine (Fred Lowe) with long chain and triple loops.

Hay, Henry: The Amateur Magician's Handbook. Hardcover, 1950, 414 pages. Includes The Spiral, which is an Endless Chain or Chain of Chance move.

Haydn, Whit (with Chef Anton): Notes on Fast and Loose. Softcover, 2000, The School for Scoundrels, 44 pages. Full coverage of the endless chain routine. Describes the throw, convincing moves, and so forth. Designed from the point of view of the real street con. $30. Chef Anton's Site, Denny & Lee's.

James, Stewart: The Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks, Volume 3. Hardcover, 1980, Abbott's Magic. Includes Double-Barreled Barrel Head by Clyde F. Cairy. This book has also been reprinted along with Volumes 1 & 2, (with Gabe Fajuri as the editor) as Stewart James' Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks, by Squash Publishing, 2005.

Keable, Ian: The Big Book of Magic Fun. Softcover, 2005, Barron's Educational Series, 192 pages. This children's magic book includes an Endless Chain routine.

Kerr, Larin R.: Endless Chain and Endless Ring. 1971 Fantastic Magic Co., PA, 5 pages, A4 size. Chain, ring and methods

Lever, Derek: Ken Brooke & Friends. Hardcover, 1986, 298 pages. Includes Ken Brooke's The Endless Chain routine.

Lorayne, Harry: Apocalypse Vol 6-10. Hardcover, 2000, L&L Publishing, 719 pages. Includes All In Air Endless Loop (Robert L. Brooks), and Can't Lose Belt Loop (Bobby Bernard). Also available as an e-Book from Harry Lorayne Magic and Conjuring Arts.

Lorayne, Harry: Apocalypse Vol 11-15. Hardcover, 2001, L&L Publishing, 719 pages. Includes What's the Catch? (Gene Maze), which is Loopy Loop or The Endless Chain with a peg stand variation. Also available as an e-Book from Harry Lorayne Magic and Conjuring Arts.

Lorayne, Harry: Apocalypse Vol 16-20. Hardcover, 2002, L&L Publishing, 719 pages. Includes The Mouse Trap (Harold Cataquet), which is an in the hands Fast & Loose, Endless chain routine done in the hands. This is a 4 loop Mouse String Figure. Also available as an e-Book from Harry Lorayne Magic and Conjuring Arts.

Matlin, Phil: Tips, Tricks and Routines. Perfect Magic. Lecture Notes includes Endless Chain. This was originally sold by Phil's Perfect Magic company as a separate routine.

Norman, Karl: Here's How. Softcover, 1985, Collector's Workshop, 51 pages. Includes Carnival Loop Routine (Chain of Chance; with comedy, fake knot, etc.).

Ray, Jimmy: A Ray of Magic. Softcover, 1980, Morrisey Magic, 48 pages. Includes The Magic Figure 8.

Rix, Claude: Presents Original Close Up Routines. Softcover, 1980ca, I Saw That!, 30 pages. Does not have a routine, but provides an idea for a gambling routine using a cigarette vanish, Fast & Loose, and the 3 Card Monte (3 Card Monte and Fast & Loose not explained).

Rogers, Mike: The Complete Mike Rogers. Hardcover, 1975, Magic Inc., 250 pages. Contains a Table Time article from the May 70 MUM, which discusses in part the Endless Chain con in Morocco. Not a routine, but may be useful for historical purposes.

Scarne, John: Scarne's Magic Tricks. Hardcover, 1951, Crown Publishers, 256 pages. Includes a variation of the chain effect, but with a belt, The Famous Belt Trick.

Sisti, Jim: The Magic Menu The First Five Years. Hardcover, 1998, L&L Publishing, 400 pages. Issue 10, March/April 1992 includes At the Bar by Ray Mertz, which explains Karl Norman's Carnival Loop Routine (Endless Chain) from the book Here's How

Sisti, Jim: The Magic Menu Years Six Thru Ten. Hardcover, 2001, L&L Publishing, 400 pages. Amongst tons of additional material, the Issue 37 September/October 1996 All-Trick Issue contains Viscous Circle by Phil Matlin, which uses a rope, and The Finger Ring Subtlety by David Acer (is this the same as in Natural Selections 2?)

Smith, Chuck: The Ultimate Endless Chain Routine. $25. H&R Magic Books

Strivings, Mark: Endlessly Elevated. Softcover, 2011, saddle-stitched, 5.5x8.5", 20 pages, B&W photo illustrated. An entirely in-the-hands Endless Chain routine.

Trost, Nick: Expert Gambling Tricks. Softcover, 1975, Trik-Kard Specialties, 26 pages. Contains On the Barrelhead by Dennie Flynn.

Zenon, Paul: Street Magic. 2005, 192 pages. Chapter 8 on Street Scams includes an endless chain routine.


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